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  1. #1 *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    So, you want to increase your impact on the Galactic Civil War? The best way you can do that is through player versus player combat (PvP), also known as flagging Special Forces. This can be done through talking to a recruiter or typing /pvp either once or twice depending on your current duty status. There are three levels of participation within a faction, the first being “On Leave” which disables fighting of factional NPCs and players altogether. The second being combatant, which restricts fighting to only NPCs of the opposite faction. Lastly, there is Special Forces, which allows players to fight players of the opposite faction for greater rewards. These greater rewards are seen in various ways.

    • Participating in Battlefields for exclusive weapons and armor only obtained through PvP (this can be done through using /battle and queuing)
    • Gaining substantially higher GCW per kill (as players are worth considerably more)
    • Battlefields can be accessed by using the /battlefield command, or by using a War Terminal or Planning Table.
    • You have to select a faction before you can PvP (unless collecting a BH mark)
    • Double tokens at invasions (due to the increased risk of other players)
    • Exponentially higher Restuss Commendation gain through killing or helping to kill players of the opposite faction, versus completing quests within the zone.


    Now onto the basics of Player versus Player

    Line of Sight (LoS) – Now you may be used to the typical combat against NPCs where seeing the target is only a matter of being within range. In PvP players will use Line of Sight (LoS) to dodge incoming damage, essentially a cover mechanic through using environmental obstacles. Using LoS is simple, it requires you to run around an object (tree, box, rock, structure, etc...) keeping that object between you and the player trying to hit you. Likewise, many buildings in Star Wars Galaxies are notoriously hard to fight in due to player tracking so these are also viable for using LoS. However, over time you will become more proficient at predicting where the other player is moving and as such can mitigate the amount of damage the other player can dodge using LoS.

    Assist (/assist) – Perhaps the most important component in organized PvP combat is assisting off a target caller(s). This allows damage to be focused at key people in fights or opportune targets. The most common place that you will be expected to do this in is Restuss, though it can be used to great effect in any PvP encounter. The most popular way to start assisting whoever is calling targets is through an assist macro. This can be accomplished by going into the command browser (; by default) and creating a new macro. Within that new macro you would put /assist (name of the player) and that is it. Now you can either place that as an ability on your toolbar or bind it to a key. If you want to bind it to a key go into keymaps and under the “custom” category you will find your macro and assign a key to it. Now when the person leading says “Assist” or a name of an enemy player you would press that key to match targets with him and everyone else in your group.

    Combat TEFS (Temporary Enemy Flag) – This is what can occur between you and another player who have just engaged in combat, neither of you will be able to enter any privately-owned player structure (such as your house) for 5 minutes after exiting combat. Likewise, dying to a player in PvP or exiting a battlefield while actively targeting a player will create a TEF between you and the other player. This will allow either them, you, or both to continue fighting even when you would not normally be able to.

    Dire Snare/Root Recourse: Some professions, such as Smugglers using the Rogue heroic jewelry set can dire snare a target (slowing the player’s movement without the ability to be removed for a duration). Likewise, Bounty Hunters with the Dire Fate/Entrapment heroic jewelry set can use their razer net traps and tangle bomb traps to completely halt a player’s movement for a duration. This is known as a dire root and it cannot be cleared until the duration passes. However, once the duration is up you will receive recourse, which prevents you from being dired again. It is important to note that these have separate recourses, meaning that if you were recently dire snared you only have protection from dire snares, not dire roots and vice versa.

    General Tips:

    • Use line of sight to your advantage, keep close to walls, trees and other objects to deny the enemy a clear shot on you unless it is on your own terms.
    • If PvPing in Restuss be sure to join the respective voice channel of the faction. The Imperial faction currently uses Discord and a permanent link to that Discord is provided here https://discord.gg/DAYWJPx . The Rebel faction uses Teamspeak3, which is an alternate voice service that can be downloaded for free. You can reach out to any Rebel player in Restuss during mass PvP to obtain their Teamspeak server address. It is important to note that a microphone or talking is generally NOT required. Both factions just generally prefer that you are in there to listen to movement and assist calls.
    • Setup an assist macro, don’t have it loop! This can be done by creating a new macro with “/assist (name of player)” and then binding it to a key or placing it on the toolbar. Simply press the key every time the assist caller says a player name or the word “assist”.
    • DO NOT PRESS the escape key when you die in PvP with the cloner and bounty windows up. Doing so will result in clearing all your buffs.


    The Zerg


    This happens when the opposing factions "shot caller" logs off. Usually a good deal of that factions players will also log off, sometimes though they will "zerg" into the area you are at. This means they just run in and hope to overwhelm, a single dire and a volley of SFP will crush them effectively ending the nights PvP. It is a decent idea to retreat in a circular pattern to let them get some kills to keep PvP going, your faction will be able to farm the daylights outta them at the same time so it's a win win.

    Profession Specific Tips:

    Commando:
    • Do not use Position Secure or use it sparingly in PvP, often being rooted will result in your death.
    • Use your range and high damage to your advantage, particularly useful at targeting medics who typically are behind other professions.



    Officer:
    • When in a group with another officer communicate and coordinate the use of your “Scatter!” ability. If this is executed perfectly there will only be a very slight delay between the two. This is important because it makes the group immune to regular snares and roots while it is active. Having two officers in a group running “Scatter!” back to back makes the group always immune during the whole fight to those effects.
    • Save your Superior Fire Power (SFP) for when a group of players are bunched up and preferably immobile from a dire root. Generally, if you are new to PvPing as an officer you can save your SFP until the leader of the fight tells you to drop SFP on a given situation.


    Medic:
    • Do not use Bacta Ampule on a player who is incapacitated, when you do not have Bacta Bomb or Bacta Spray when the player can still be targeted by enemy players. This is referred to as “ampule on incap”, which normally results in killing your teammate faster.
    • Use your Stasis Other to stasis enemy Officers with SFP up, Commandos with Stand Fast, or a Bounty Hunter pushing for Dire Traps.


    Smuggler:
    • Do not dire snare (Concussion Shot) enemy Bounty Hunters, unless you know they are pushing for traps. Otherwise, this will give the enemy Bounty Hunter dire snare recourse, enabling him to push on top of your group for perfect traps.
    • Save Nerf Herder for when the enemy group does not have the Scatter! ability up, preferably if you’ve seen their officer’s scatter just expire. Using Nerf Herder while a scatter is up will completely negate it.



    Typing /pvp twice or going to a recruiter and selecting the “special forces” option will set you SF and there's a good chance you will be tracked down and killed. I mention this because I’ve hunted down enough low level players doing legacy and accidentally going SF when in Bestine or Anchorhead.

    If you are a jedi, you will do well in smaller scale PvP but unfortunately struggle with all of the AoEs in large scale. However, you can be very useful in the aspect of running in and clicking bodies (deathblowing). I’ve witnessed a fight won because of the momentum that provided for my team by having a Jedi just concentrate on getting the deathblows.

    Some "protips" from the ineternethero erm.... PvP Channel!

    "The links for both discords are pinned in the Legends pvp channel" - Tallia

    "Good luck and have fun" -Kroye

    "Pvping is a great aspect of the game. Having a positive outlook and wanting to learn will go a long way in your efforts to enjoy it. The PvP community is some of the caring, funny, and helpful players. Yes there are some who banter more then fight but in all what you see in the discord doesnt match what goes on in game. Getting into voice comms and working as a unit really allows you to make great friendships with player of all kind. In summary if you join in the fighting hop in voice and ask for help you will for sure find people who are eager to give you a hand." -Ommak

    "Don't be shy and ask for help plenty of people will answer your questions and try to read the profession guides on the forums they really help." -Too Tired

    "Remember it is only a game." -Ykat

    "Protect the Medics and Officers" - various

    Special Thanks to BloodCommando for his write up and input from Sam2h!
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  2. #2 Re: *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    Nice write up Kracken and everyone who helped!
    Parzival, Wade Watts, Artemis, Anorak.
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  3. #3 Re: *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Parz1val View Post
    Nice write up Kracken and everyone who helped!
    Thanks @BloodCommando deserve a ton of credit for this as well!
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  4. #4 Re: *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    Call me nuts but with my Jedi. LSJ. I like to do what I call my “bob and weave” get close enough for an area, then get the heck back out/ LOS. Just have to watch those snares. If I can get those db’s that drop. But I am always having some fun out there. I’m always solo out there.
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  5. #5 Re: *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    More PvP guides please.
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  6. #6 Re: *Friday Feature - PvP for Beginners* 
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    For someone who has zero knowledge of the PvP scene and what it entails, this is a goldmine lol. Thanks for writing this!
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